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   xperts from NII Holdings, Total S.A. and True Religion Brand Jeans gathered on the General 

Session stage at FOCUS 2013 to have a candid discussion about the value of cloud services. The 
panel featured Anthony Balducci, director of supply chain for NII; Richard Heinrich, manager of retail 
merchandising solutions for True Religion; and Fabrice Sasmayoux, business project manager for Total. 
The conversation was moderated by JDA Software’s Executive Vice President of Services, David Gai.  
What follows is an excerpt of that conversation.

Journey to the Cloud

A Candid Conversation About the Value of 

Deploying Technology in the Cloud 

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Richard Heinrich:

 I’ve been with True Religion Brand Jeans 

for about two years. To me, it’s a relatively young company 

since I’ve been in specialty retail for 32 years. The company 

started in 2002 as a wholesaler, and then in 2005 opened up 

its first retail store in Southern California. We have about  

140 stores right now. We have full-price stores, outlet stores 

and also a third channel, which is our e-commerce business. 

Fabrice Sasmayoux

I’ve been working for Total S.A. for 17 years 

now, and work in the strategy department, responsible f

or the 

service station information systems. Total is ranked number fiv

in the oil and gas industry. We operate in 130 countries, fr

om 

extracting the raw product to the final customers. My br

anch is 

in what we call the distribution part of the business. We oper

ate 

15,000 sites across 65 countries, and we are number one in A

frica 

and Western Europe. 

Anthony Balducci: 

NII Holdings is a wireless service 

provider that operates under the Nextel brand in 
Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Mexico and Peru. We have 
about 11.5 million subscribers right now. We’re in a very 
transitional period. We’re moving to a 3G network and 
rolling out new services and new products. As the director 
of supply chain, I was involved in the RFP [request for 
proposal], the contract award, the vendor selection and 
the business case for the solution.

Before delving into their perspectives on the cloud, the panelists briefly described their companies and 
relationships with JDA. NII and True Religion are JDA Cloud Services customers, while Total, a legacy RedPrairie 
hosting customer, is in the process of migrating to the JDA Cloud. 

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Support for cloud deployments can vary across 
industries and even within companies. The participants 
discussed how prolific the cloud strategy was within their 
organizations.   

Heinrich:

 From the beginning, the executive and 

management committee supported deploying in the cloud. 
The complete IT team for True Religion is less than 10 people. 
Everything has been cloud-based. We’re opening 20 stores 
worldwide this year, so our whole philosophy has been to 
do it in the cloud and outsource all of that expertise and all 
of that cost. Keep it lean and mean, and as long as the users 
are happy with the application and the support, that’s all 
that counts. The users think of it as a black box. If it’s up and 
running 24/7, and it works fast, that’s all they care about. 
They don’t care if it’s in the cloud, and they don’t care if it’s 
down the hallway in a basement. As long as they can log 
onto the system and be productive, that’s what’s important.

Sasmayoux:

 Our strategy is not to move all of our system 

into the cloud. Ten years ago, the hosted solution was 
considered the best solution. All sites are on our trusted 
network, and the connection has to go through our hub 
before reaching the JDA servers. For each country, we have 
a dedicated server and an airtight environment. Today, it’s 
completely different. We want to cut price and optimize so 
now we’ve started to group countries on the same servers, 
but every now and then we find downtime because of the 
massive amount of data generated by the business. The 
servers are being saturated, and every three or four years 
we have to go through an upgrade process. The upgrade 
process is a lot of work.

The next point is when we wanted to expand to Asia, we 
weren’t able to use our servers because of the downtime 
period, because of the time difference. So we would have 
had to start from scratch with new servers, and that would 
be much too expensive for a new affiliate so we gave up the 
idea. We feel that the current architecture limits our business, 
especially for all of the fast-growing countries, and we think 
that JDA Cloud Services will help both of our businesses,  
JDA and Total. It’s really a win-win situation to come. 

The panelists also touched on internal politics — 
identifying which parts of their organizations were more 
willing to move to the cloud, as well as other departments 
where the conversations were tougher. 

Sasmayoux: 

The cloud advocates would definitely be the 

business and IT part of the company. The adversaries we 
anticipate will be in the legal department. In Europe data 
protection is a very big and serious concern, so we have to 

go through legal. The other part will be the IT security. We 
work on a trusted network, so we have to have all of the 
clearances to move forward. 

Balducci: 

Our IT department was initially against the cloud. 

They wanted to do everything internally. In terms of security, 
that was one of the big issues they were concerned about. 
We structured it so that we have to either VPN into our 
network or we have to be on the network in one of the 
offices. You can’t just go into an Internet café and log in. You 
have to go through our network to get to the JDA solutions, 
which from a security standpoint is very good for us.

Heinrich: 

Our upper management wanted a cloud solution, 

but they wanted to make sure that certain criteria were met. 
Could they turn on a dime? If we had changes that needed 
to be made, could they make those changes? Do they 
have the resources available? How robust was the system? 
Would there be any lag processing time and things like that, 
because as you grow 20 stores a year, how scalable was this 
new service that we were going to get? I think everybody 
still wanted to go with the cloud, but they wanted to make 
sure that it could meet all of the needs of the users. I think 
that was the biggest concern with the cloud, how productive 
was it going to be.

Outside of the technology benefits, the participants also 
touched on the savings and business improvements 
they’ve seen as a result of moving to the cloud.  

Balducci: 

One of the things that we were looking at was, 

of course, getting the solution up and running as soon as 
possible. We had been addicted to Excel for many, many 
years. While it had been our friend, and it had been nice to 
us and made great tables and charts, it wasn’t the optimal 
solution for purchasing about $1 billion worth of inventory 
a year. 

So one of the things we looked at, obviously, with the cloud 
was how much is it going to cost. The other big thing was 
time to market. We looked at when we were building out 
these networks, and our IT department was extremely 
strapped in terms of timing. The cloud has allowed us to 
grow the business and not have to worry about the IT 
aspect of it. We can focus on getting the right product to the 
customer at the right time. 

The other problem we had was with the cell phones because 
over the years, the shelf life has gotten shorter and shorter. 
When you’re carrying 100–120 days of inventory and a 
product only has a shelf life of 12 months, you can see how it 
runs out real quick. When Samsung comes out with Galaxy S4, 

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guess what happens to the Galaxy S III? It’s just not going to 
sell, so we have a lot of obsolete inventory. By being in the 
cloud, it’s allowed us to be flexible in terms of pulling back 
on our inventory levels, and we can grow quicker and have a 
more diverse portfolio. The cloud has really offered us a lot in 
terms of flexibility and reduced our business risks.

Heinrich:

 I’m really a functional expert, and to me, the cloud 

is a big, black box. I don’t want to deal with everything in 
that big, black box. I just want to make sure that black box 
works. All of my communication with JDA Cloud Services is 
via email. 

I email my service delivery manager, and a ticket is opened 
up instantaneously, and someone is assigned that ticket. I 
can log into the ticketing system and see, “Yes, there’s my 
email. I want this new version of software,” and I can tell 
them, “Today is Monday. I want it installed on Saturday. I 
want to put it into my dev [development] environment,” and 
that’s all I have to do. The service delivery manager takes 
charge of everything. He gets the experts and the users 
together, and then I just monitor the ticket to see, “Where are 
they in the process?”  Then I come in on Monday morning, 

and the new version of the application is sitting in my dev 
environment.

It’s the same process with the Oracle patches. When we 
upgraded to JDA Allocation version 8, JDA Cloud Services 
contacted me, and all I had to do was say, “Upgrade the 
Oracle.” All of the Windows server patches are applied 
weekly, so really everything is seamless to me with cloud 
services.

Somebody at JDA is working on those problems 24/7,  
so the turnaround and the expertise is very quick. And 
usually they’re prompting you to take action. They’re saying, 
“We need a response. We want to close this ticket. We have 
your solution ready. What do you want to do? Push the 
button.”  That’s the difference between doing it in-house and 
outsourcing it. 

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Want to hear more of the conversation? 
Visit jda.com/cloudpanel to view the panel 
discussion in its entirety. 

This article originally appeared in Real Results Magazine, Volume 8, Issue 2, jda.com/realresultsmagazine ©2013 JDA Software Group, Inc.