> From: God Like Productions Admin
> Date: June 22, 2009 4:34:18 PM CDT
> To: "Abraham Goldman"
> Subject: Re: Demand for Immediate Removal of Copyrighted, Private
> and Privileged Information
>
> Sir,
>
> People who email asking for "cooperation" should not make demands.
> Your letter makes several demands of our organization quoting
> proposed violations of law without basis in fact.
>
> The document in question that you refer to as privileged or
> copyrighted is not hosted on our website. It is hosted on
> wikileaks.com. As you yourself admit, posting a paraphrase of a
> document or post on wikileaks is NOT protected by attorney client
> privilege or copyright laws. Your attempts to stretch the limits of
> these laws to suit your needs here is ill conceived at best.
>
> Again I will suggest you take up your cause with the publisher of
> this document and the websites hosting it. Your attempts to stifle
> free speech at a discussion forum will be met with nothing but
> further public discussion of your agenda which you are powerless to
> prevent.
>
> After further review of the information out there on the
> organization that you not only represent but are a member of it
> seems obvious to me that you have a very serious problem on your
> hands here that involves much more than a civil issue. Your hasty
> action in sending a letter of demands attempting to stifle free and
> open discussion about your organization has only lead to more
> exposure and public discussion of the matters at hand.
>
> Our stance is that we are not in violation of any laws. If you would
> like have a judge decide you are free to pursue further civil action.
>
> You can do your own due diligence as to the legal owner of this
> website. Don't ask me to do your job for you.
>
> Finally, I would suggest you work on your communication skills if
> you wish to obtain cooperation from individuals who are bound by no
> law to comply with your "demands".
>
> Best Regards,
>
> XXXXXXXXXXX
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Abraham Goldman wrote:
>
>> Dear XXXXXXXXX:
>>
>> Thank you for the prompt reply.
>>
>> You are incorrect that my communication was a “threatening" letter.
>> If you comply with the law, you are protected from any legal
>> process. You state you are or will be in compliance, so there is no
>> possibility of any “threat" to you.
>>
>> The post in question paraphrases a letter which unquestionably is a
>> privileged Attorney Client communication under the laws of any
>> state, nation and international law. Nothing is more fundamental
>> that the right of a client to communicate with their legal
>> representative. Kings and Emperors and Star Chambers fought against
>> this, but the right to counsel prevailed.
>>
>> Publishing a paraphrase of a privileged document would be an easy
>> and convenient way to avoid any laws of copyright, privacy or
>> privilege. That is what Mr. Gilbertłs posting attempts to do. There
>> is definitely attorney client information in it that is the whole
>> intent of the posting. It also links, or attempts to link to the
>> full letter itself: the Courts have held such a link can be a
>> violation of copyright laws and the DNCA all by itself. The link is
>> a direction to the full private, privileged letter itself.
>>
>> People who take a stand for legal rights do not “threaten". They
>> ask for civilized compliance with the law. Respectfully asking for
>> legal compliance is not a threat. The world stood still while
>> Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin violated law after law: there was
>> the threat. Freedom and Responsibility need and deserve equal
>> respect and equal compliance. Violating laws of privacy and legal
>> privilege do not further either.
>>
>> I will forward to you the additional information you request. In
>> the interval, my clientłs demand and notice that itłs rights of
>> privacy, privilege and copyright be respected stands as previously
>> stated.
>>
>> If you would be so kind as to reply with the corporate name,
>> address and email that would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Abraham Goldman
>>
>> From: God Like Productions Admin
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:30 AM
>> To: agoldman@succeed.net
>> Subject: Re: Demand for Immediate Removal of Copyrighted, Private
>> and Privileged Information
>>
>> Sir,
>>
>> For an attorney you should know that the post in question does NOT
>> violate the DMCA. You should also know that NO attorney client
>> privileged information is contained in that post. If you can
>> provide a real evidence of a law that is being violated here I will
>> be happy to investigate the matter further. In the mean time I have
>> published this threatening letter on our website for the public to
>> review. If you believe this post represents libel I suggest you
>> take that up with the person who made it and attempt to prove what
>> they are saying is NOT true. (good luck with that) I will be
>> awaiting any subpoena for information via our corporate
>> headquarters in Jersey, Isle of Man. (good luck on that as well)
>>
>> Please be aware that further threatening letters will also be
>> published for public consumption.
>>
>> Have a nice day,
>>
>> XXXXXXXXXXX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:04 AM, XXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Abraham Goldman [mailto:agoldman@succeed.net]
>> Sent: segunda-feira, 22 de Junho de 2009 03:00
>> To: God Like Productions Admin
>> Cc: 'Abraham Goldman'
>> Subject: Demand for Immediate Removal of Copyrighted, Private and
>> Privileged Information
>>
>> ABRAHAM N. GOLDMAN & ASSOCIATES, LTD.
>> Post
>> Office Box 120
>>
>> 12896 Rices Crossing Road
>>
>> Oregon House, CA 95962-0120
>>
>> Abraham N.
>> Goldman
>> Tel
>> . 530-692-2267
>> agoldman
>> @succeed
>> .net
>> Fax
>> 530692-2543
>> June 21, 2009
>>
>>
>> To:
>> “Godlike Productions"
>> DMCA and legal compliance officer:
>>
>>
>> I am the lawyer for the Fellowship of Friends, Inc., a California
>> non-profit religious corporation. Please call my office: 530 692
>> 2267 to verify.
>>
>> My client wishes to work with you on this matter in a cooperative
>> fashion. Please do no hesitate to contact me by email or by
>> telephone at any time.
>>
>> This notice concerns a post by a Mr. Ames Gilbert: "Censored
>> Fellowship of Friends cult letter from former legal council David
>> Springfield", possibly posted or dated 6/14/2009.
>>
>> My client demands that the Post reproduced below, by Ames Gilbert,
>> be removed immediately, and that all links or traces of this post
>> be eliminated. My client also demands that all electronically
>> stored information, as that term is used in Rules 26 and 34 of the
>> Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, be preserved immediately and
>> permanently, until further notice. My office intends to subpoena
>> such information pursuant to the DMCA and all other applicable laws
>> very soon.
>>
>> Please take notice that the post by Mr. Gilbert reiterates or
>> paraphrases copyrighted AND ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED MATERIALS,
>> WHICH CAN NEVER BE PUBLISHED UNDER ANY "FAIR USE" DOCTRINE. The
>> underlying materials were and remain privileged and private and no
>> legal rights under any federal or state law were ever waived by my
>> client, the owner of the letter and itłs copyright.
>>
>> PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THIS EMAIL IMMEDIATELY, and that the
>> offending post was removed immediately.
>>
>> In addition to violation of copyright laws and privacy laws, my
>> client also takes the position the post is libel and defamation,
>> and violates federal laws on electronic communications. My client
>> also reserves the right to take legal action against any person or
>> entity involved with the publication or distribution of the subject
>> post by Mr. Gilbert, and/or the referenced underlying attorney
>> client privileged and private letter.
>>
>> My client looks forward to your immediate cooperation and
>> compliance with all federal and state laws and regulations.
>>
>> Once again, my client wishes to work with you on this matter in a
>> cooperative fashion. Please do no hesitate to contact me by email
>> or by telephone at any time. Mr. Gilbert has a long documented
>> history of illegal acts toward the Fellowship, including, but not
>> limited to copyright violations, privacy violations, defamation,
>> invasion of privacy and violation of federal internet and
>> electronic communications laws.
>>
>> Thank you for your immediate attention to this very important matter.
>>
>> /s/
>> Abraham Goldman
>> 530 692 2267
>> agoldman@succeed.net
>>
>> Offending Post:
>>
>>
>> “Summary
>>
>> The Fellowship of Friends is a "intellectual" fourth-way cult
>> founded in the 1970s by its current leader Robert Earl Burton [1]
>> [2] [3]. It claims chapters in many countries, including 10
>> chapters in the United States [4].
>>
>> This file contains a copy of a letter sent to the members of the
>> Board of Directors of the Fellowship of Friends apparently by their
>> former legal counsel. The letter outlines many illegal activities
>> of the Fellowship of Friends and omissions of oversight by said
>> Board of Directors, and possible consequences if these matters come
>> to the attention of the authorities.
>>
>> The document was initially released on the Fellowship of Friends
>> Discussion blog, but was wholly censored by the publisher
>> Wordpress.com after it received a claim of copyright infringement
>> under the US DMCA.
>>
>> A version of it was then made available on the Internet Archive
>> (archive.org), but it too has been removed.
>>
>> The letter refers to fraud obtaining religious visas, fraudulent
>> accounting, inurements to the chief minister (Robert Earl Burton),
>> tax evasion, and so on. It may be of interest to agencies within
>> the US government and the governments of other countries.
>>
>> Interested parties can call Ames Gilbert at (530) 272-4775 (within
>> U.S.A.)."
>>
>>
>>
>>
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