IRC Seminar from Mon Dec 15, 1997
Mini Speed-Seduction Seminar Transcript
Conducted December 15, 1997, 7:00 PM PST, hosted by Ross Jeffries.
All comments here are copyright 1997 Ross Jeffries and may not be reproduced,
posted or quoted in any manner whatsoever without the express written consent of
Ross Jeffries.
This version has been edited to remove personal comments, and references to
persons not in attendance in the seminar.
Topics:
Dark Sun use on Voice Mail Services
Psychic Seduction
Dr. Latourette's Silva Mind Control seminar
**************************************************
*** Topic for #sargy: Don't break the knobs on your Eq . . . and don't play with mine.
*** Topic for #sargy set by `Odin` on Monday, December 15, 1997 8:49:45 AM
*** Sandworm ([e-mail]) has joined channel #Sargy
[Sandworm] HELLO!
ESR: IS that the Cat man
PlayR: Hey Sandworm!
PlayR: Just got your post..
[Sandworm] Ignore the email going out to the list..too late..for tonight's IRC
session..vianet's mail server fucked it up!
ESR says hi to Ross
[Sandworm] EDDIE! GREAT FUCKIn' POST! You are the Sargiest!
ESR: Did you read my Email Ross
[Sandworm] FUCKING AMAZING!
Riker1: Hi Ross.
[Sandworm] EDDIE IS THE BOMB!
Riker1: ESR is so money.
[Sandworm] Riker!
ESR: naw man, your' swinging platinum Ross.
PlayR: Ill have to go back and read that one...
[Sandworm] I'm WEARING platinum! I'm SWINGIN' PLUTONIUM!
[Sandworm] I have been using pieces of the Dark Sun on a voice mail dating service..just
playing..and the chycks are going APESHIT!
ESR: careful, if that plutonium gets close to Kryptonium, you'll fusse into a problem
[Sandworm] Oh my god! You wouldn't believe the responses! Especially on the intimate
encounters section...
[Sandworm] you all want to hear some of the patter?
PlayR: Yup.
`Odin`: Yea.. why do you ask? ;-)
ESR says lay it on my man
[Sandworm] First I've got a 60 second ad running...took a CD of t.v. tunes and played the
Mission Impossible theme in the backround...
[Sandworm] It says, "Good evening ladies...the man you are listening to goes by the
name of Ross..while to all appearances he is just another devilishly handsome, debonair,

man about town..he is in reality..the most dangerous agent of love and romance the world
has ever seen
[Sandworm] Your mission..should you decide to accept it..is to make connect with him in
box 3588...draw close to him..learn his secrets..and discover how wonderful the two of
you can be together...
[Sandworm] As always if you or any of your IMF team are caught or killed, the secretary
will disavow all knowledge of your actions....this message will self-destruct in 5 seconds!
[Sandworm] Now..that gets attention..and lots of curiosity..cuz I ain't told them NUTHIN'
about myself!
`Odin`: Except that you're different!
[Sandworm] When they leave messages for me..they've raised their hands...thats when I
leave a response with the DS language...
ESR: DS?
[Sandworm] I say something like, "I'm interested in living life from that special
place..that place where anything can be tried out..where anything can be tried out..where
anything can be explored..that place where ANYTHING can be possible...
ESR: ohh ss
`Antonio`: dark sun
[Sandworm] It's that place right next to the essence of who you are as a woman...where
you keep your most exciting memories..where you ponder
fantasies...daydreams..amazing possibilities......
glen_ster: hi bros
`Odin`: hey glen
PlayR: Dude...
[Sandworm] And the question I ask myself is, "What is it..about the way certain people
effect us..that causes us to think of them in that special place....to hear this voice...and
feel this presence from that spot...in such a way...that no matter how we try to deny our
desire to ACT...it takes on a life of it's own..compelling..powerful real..because we're
being touched in all those special places...in all those special ways we LONG to be
touched...it's the kind of c
[Sandworm] Yes..I want to step into this special place with this special person and
explore ANYTHING we can make real together...
[Sandworm] Pause for applause!
*** Sandworm has set the topic on channel #sargy to Getting Chycks Hot On The Phone
With Dark Sun!
[Sandworm] They just go freakin' ballistic, brothers!
Riker1: clap clap clap...
PlayR: Why is that pattern called 'Dark Sun'?
[Sandworm] back in 2 minutes
`Antonio`: name of a book Player
PlayR: Should I read it?
ESR: hey maw, are you awake
Riker1: I though it was something to do with a ThermoNuclear metaphor.
`Odin`: It's about building of the atomic bomb
`Antonio`: the book is about the bomb
Riker1: mmmkay

PlayR: Oh.. I get it..
PlayR: mmmmkay
`Antonio`: so yes player, your success in SS depends upon reading it
ESR: and all the emails on the list
maw: no ..I'm sleeping
[Sandworm] Ok..back.......the book is about the building of the H-bomb!
PlayR: In that case...
`Antonio`: and it's a RPG
[Sandworm] And about how they solved the theoretical problem of compressing
deuterium with x-rays.....to get thermonuclear burning to take place...
[Sandworm] They were stuck for 5 years til they made the breakthrough...
[Sandworm] Which is about how long I've been working on SS..with help from the Bros
the last 2-3 years, of course!
J-Altfeld asks... ***Ross***, remind me & the bros why its called Dark Sun?
Riker1: ..becuase of it's power...simliar to that of an H Bomb?
[Sandworm] Dark sun sort of compresses a woman's mind...gets it ready for BURNING!
J-Altfeld: ;)
ESR: where's the A Bomb.
[Sandworm] Once you compress the deuterium you can keep it burning..there is NO
theoretical upper limit to the yield of a thermonuclear device...b]Because what
compression allows you to do is get critical mass with MUCH smaller amounts of
material...
J-Altfeld: brb
OriGami: the purer the Pu239 the less mass needed to get critical mass
ESR: Psychic Seduction
Riker1: Hopefully that does not mean seducing psycho chicks.
Riker1: :)
ESR: you never know. I gosta becareful
[Sandworm] The a-bomb is the primary, ESR..it's what compresses the secondary, which
is the deuterium!
J-Altfeld: back
`Antonio`: A bomb is a necessary part of the H bomb
[Sandworm] Actually, it's no longer a function of the Pu239 as much as it is the
deuterium which when it burns will compress lots of smaller fissionable material seeded
around it...
[Sandworm] what you get is fission-fusion-fission...
maw is back, with a personalised version of Dork Sun.
[Sandworm] DORK SUN?
[Sandworm] HAHAHAHAHA!
maw: :-)
J-Altfeld: Antonio: "A bomb is a necessary part of the H bomb"
J-Altfeld: Thats right...
*** Sandworm has set the topic on channel #sargy to Physics Corner..With Dr. Ross
Strangelove!
J-Altfeld: Without A bomb, the H bomb is just "H"

[Sandworm] So..anyway..the Dark Sun language is like the A-bomb that compresses the
deuterium...preparing it for unlimited burning!
OriGami asks what H-bomb
PlayR: Is that the spacial anchoring part?
ESR: Got it..
maw: I had a friend, and when she is with a guy that she really likes, all she wants to do
is be with them, and give, head over heels, absolutely blowing them away with her
energy, to the point that made her come to realise its a matter of going down into the
unconscious, where you get that feeling that this is what you really want. Now, me, I
think, that often a blink with the eyes can put you right into that state, didn't it.
[Sandworm] Now...the second part of the pattern is...I talk about how sometimes because
of things going on..stresses in our life..relationships we're in that constrict us...we shut
away..lock away parts of who we are..but they are still there in that special place..and
what would it be like for a person to just right now..feel all those parts wake up...look
through our eyes...hear with our ears..feel with our bodies and say, "Yes..I want this right
now is the time to
[Sandworm] MAW! THAT WAS TOO MONEY!
maw: Sorry for the interruption Ross, I had been toying with that for a while, I just HAD
to get it out of my system.
PlayR: That is the compression part...
ESR: no that's the H-bomb
[Sandworm] Hey guys..I wanna talk about Dr. Latourette's Silva Mind Control seminar I
went to..
Stygian: What was that all about?
PlayR: Didnt know he was a dork.
[Sandworm] SILVA IS THE SHIT! IT WORKS!
Stygian has a face of confusion
[Sandworm] Latourette taught me something...SOMETHING IMPORTANT!
[Sandworm] Ok..Silva teaches you:
[Sandworm] 1. A systematic method to enter altered states for creative problem
solving....dream work..psychic healing..telepathy...
[Sandworm] 2. Detailed step by step instructions for all the stuff I just mentioned...
maw: ...leading to psychic seduction, I gather?
PlayR: Is there a book you'd recommend?
[Sandworm] A bit boring at times, but workable..not very flashy..not too
sophisticated..but it WORKS! It's sort of the reliable baseball player who ALWAYS gets
a base hit and occasionally some home runs....GOOD STUFF!
[Sandworm] Anyway...I learned an interesting thang from Dr. L.who by the way I think
is THE MONEY! Eddie..whattya think of Dr. L!
[Sandworm] What I learned is about USING and MOVING your physical body when
you do psychic stuff!
ESR: he was a very impressive guy.. he was very bright, and listen alot, Bronko taught
me some of the stuff he learned, and I think it's top notch
[Sandworm] In Silva, they actually have you reach out with your hands and scan the
person you are remotely scanning and healing!
maw: can I reach out a scan tits this way?

[Sandworm] And when you want to read someone's thoughts...once you go into trance
and visualize them..you actually REACH OUT WITH YOUR ARMS and imagine taking
off their head and putting it on YOUR HEAD!
[Sandworm] YOU HAVE TO DO THE ACTUAL MOVEMENTS..don't just imagine it!
Actually reach out with your arms..feel the head in your hands!
maw: wow.
[Sandworm] Yes..maw you can!
maw: I used to imagine that.. but now so much her whole head on my head, just her
mouth on my head. (ok I'll shut up now)
[Sandworm] It's akin to the Equalizer..you have to actually reach up with your hands and
push the levers..not just imagine it...reaching up and using your hands wires it in
somehow!
[Sandworm] >>>>slaps maw with a large trou!
[Sandworm] trout!
maw lols at the idea of doing this head swapping thing in public.
maw: I don't know.. are you really supposed to do this, physically?
[Sandworm] eeerie! There's a fox in the field right outside my window..they make the
WEIRDEST half bark/half crow's caw!
ESR: get SarGy to EAT IT!!
[Sandworm] Maw..you can do it WITHOUT the person actually being present..jus
timagine they are there and do it!
ESR: JUST DO IT!!
ESR: read my post MAW
[Sandworm] Now...the key is..you need to have SOME kind of body movement involved
in the operation..whatever you are doing...
[Sandworm] Like..I'm experimenting with another psychic thing...
[Sandworm] wanna hear it maw?
[Sandworm] I go into trance...then I imagine this chcyk I want to seduce..that is am
GOING to seduce...laying in her bed with her back to me..she's laying on her side...I
imagine the bed is about 10 feet from me..actually on the other side of the wall of my
living room!
OriGami: think of the rabies threat, silly
SarGy jumps out the window after the fox
maw: please continue Ross
[Sandworm] From that distance I sort of hear the thoughts INSIDE her head!
OriGami: ping
maw: yes, please, sandworm!
[Sandworm] (Jeez..no shit..the think is vocal tonite!) And I don't think a tiny fox could
take Sargy..he's a BIG cat..
maw: esr: which post? the one of the non-calibrating brother B?
PlayR: How would you use this for getting laid?
J-Altfeld: back sorry I've been on the phone with a lot of people...
J-Altfeld: ;)
J-Altfeld: Awesome material up above...
J-Altfeld: gonna have to take time to review it later!
ESR: yeah. the Hulk one. read the end

ESR: what a Lammer..
maw: sand: ok... question: does it work? do you get "insights" about how she thinks this
way?
ESR: hey I don't remember trying what Ross said, but Sunday night I felt that I could
read her thoughts, and I instantly knew how to get her in bed.
ESR: it may be similar to what Ross is doing though
[Sandworm] Then what I do is I suddenly get a sense of very rapidly moving forward..the
picture of her gets huge like it's both being pulled into me AND I am moving toward
it..and then it's like I am IN her head...and then I hear her voice in MY head..and I begin
to have a dream FOR her..where she is watching me eat her...getting all hot...and I feel
her body in the bed..her nipples getting hard..her pussy lubricating..I feel her pussy
gripping and pulsing..bearing d
[Sandworm] Eddie..tell us about your experience!
[Sandworm] You mean the chyck with the PHD?
maw: brb
ESR: K, based on what ****** said.. He have told me that DR. L said to meditate, by
counting backwards form 3,3,3, to 2,2,2 to 1,1,1, and he says that this was done like 20
times in class..
[Sandworm] What it has in common with the other technique is : 1. Identification with
the subject rather than "sending" a message and 2. A sense of movement..I actually move
my body forward a bit like I'm being tugged forward...
ESR: I did this for the past several days, any time I could, and that night. somthing just
clicked, like I knew how to do it, easily..
[Sandworm] Yah..lots of going in and out of trance..it's called "fractionation"
[Sandworm] You mean with the chyck? You read her..were in her mind? At the party?
[Sandworm] You saw with different eyes? You saw INTO her..not just her surface..and
THAT act alone was what she sense is MY guess and she DUG it..it surprised her..hit her
where she lives as a WOMAN!
[Sandworm] You were a MAN who could touch her..not a boy who was trying!
ESR: Yeah!! But I read her once at the begining, and I had a flash of what I needed to do,
not like pictures, or anything. I just got a feeling that If I go for it, It will come out
exactly the way I want it to.
[Sandworm] EDDIE IS THE MONEY! HE IS SWINGIN a HUGE NLPENIS!
[Sandworm] I gotta go in 5 mnintues! Gotta do a phone consult with a Bro who just
bought a home study course!
ESR: I am just a humble man ross, thanks.. I be just learning, and getting out there and
doing it.
Saint11: Damn! Just got here.
PlayR: That's kewl...
maw: ok. now someone please point out to me the major difference between what you
describe here and the stepping-in type of 'standard' calibration?
[Sandworm] Calibration can mean a LOT of things..it means to compare against..to get a
baseline with which to measure...
[Sandworm] You can calibrate distances...
[Sandworm] This is more IDENTIFICATION!
[Sandworm] Here's another way to view it...

[Sandworm] Are you ready?
[Sandworm] God..I really AM a great teacher...
maw: well, ok, stepping in means for me to view the world from her view, with her
feelings.
maw: I'm ready
[Sandworm] It is the difference between assessing and ACCESSING! One implies a
disassociation..the other an IDENTIFICATION!
J-Altfeld: Humble too ;)
J-Altfeld: LOL RJ
J-Altfeld: GREAT ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!
maw: ok. so what you do with the silva thing is dissocation?
maw: or the other way round?
[Sandworm] Nope...other way round!
maw: now thats strange. because for me the stepping in would be pointless if it wasn't to
take on their identity to access whats going on.
[Sandworm] Maw...what you do is DIRECT once you've identified....
[Sandworm] Go rent a movie "The Eyes of Laura Mars".
maw: yeah, but for me calibration goes first, then comes leading. since I might have to go
through "intermediate" states first.
[Sandworm] Modeling does NOT require Deep Trance Identification...
[Sandworm] But whatever works for ya, Maw!
maw: I saw the movie. some times ago.. scary, but good. faye, wasn't it.
[Sandworm] That's what counts!
J-Altfeld: THANK YOU ROSS guys listen up -- modeling DOES NOT REQUIRE deep
trance identification.
maw: thats right, and I never thought of it as being deep trance identificaion.
J-Altfeld: modeling can be done consciuously!!!
[Sandworm] Correct, JA!
ESR: I think what Ross is saying is that when you get into a state, and allow yourself to
see though her eyes, you are calibrating from the inside, not the outside, and that's what
we both did..
maw: well I am sure since I don't think that I do much unconsciously anyway :-)
[Sandworm] Well put Eddie!
J-Altfeld: Maw -- MOST of what you do you do unconsciously, sorry, my friend...
maw: ESR: I'm sorry, but for me this IS the same thing.
[Sandworm] Oh..has everyone met my new pussy? Tabbatha Kitty? Sargy's sister? Will
you all take a sec and say hello!
J-Altfeld: its just that its mostly automatic behavior!
J-Altfeld: You may consciously decide to brush your teeth but the motions you go
through are programmed in.
Riker1: This is similar to "saying" stuff "at" her vs. experiencing states "with" her, you
both become part of the process.
maw: jon: you didn't pick up on that, did ya :) "I don't think I do much unconsciously bla
bla: :-)
ESR: why would you need to Calibrate anything, if you can get inside of it, and see how
it works form the inside.. That's what Mozart, Di Vinci, and Tesla did

J-Altfeld: sorry --- you're RIGHT you don't know consciously what you do unconsciously
J-Altfeld: perils of reading email...
studgirl: good point
J-Altfeld: or chats...
J-Altfeld: you can't get the inflection intended...
maw: anyways. what I do and use appears to me as if I aquired it wqith quite some
conscious effort. I might get better at it, and naturally that makes it become more
unconsicous. does that make sense?
[Sandworm] Actually, if you want to know more about Mozart's creative strategy..Robert
Dilts wrote a book about him and Disney and Einstein and Sherlock Holmes! Called
Strategy of Genius..a bit stuff but BRILLIANT!
*ESR* no that was the other girl, that ****** was reading the seminar notes to. she was
freaky, and I was ready to throw her out the window.. Pam is cool..
maw: my impression is that we all seem to do the same thing, but differ in our
interpretation of the word "calibration". which is ok, right
ESR: I know it's brilliant, I bought the book, and it kicks ass..
[Sandworm] I think Robert Dilts would be APPALLED by SS!
[Sandworm] I admire his intelligence but I think he'd HATE ME!

SEMINAR
Modular Aspects of Installing
Compulsions
Seminar from Mon Dec 15, 1997
Mini Speed„Seduction Seminar Transcript
Conducted December 15, 1997, 7:00 PM PST, hosted by Ross Jeffries.
All comments here are copyright 1997 Ross Jeffries and may not be reproduced, posted
orÏquoted in any manner whatsoever without the express written consent of Ross Jeffries.

This version has been edited to remove personal comments, and references to persons not
in attendance in the seminar.
Topics:
Dark Sun
use on Voice Mail Services
Psychic Seduction
Dr. Latourette's Silva Mind Control seminar
************************************************** Ìñ
*** Topic for #sargy: Don't break the knobs on your Eq . . . and don't play with mine.
*** Topic for #sargy set by `Odin` on Monday, December 15, 1997 8:49:45 AM
*** Sandworm (Sandworm@la„ip22.via.net) has joined channel #Sargy
[Sandworm]ó
HELLO!
ESR: IS that the Cat man
PlayR:
Hey Sandworm!
PlayR:
Just got your post..

[Sandworm]ó
Ignore
the email going out to the list..too late..for tonight's IRC
session..vianet's mail server fucked it up!
ESR says
hi to Ross
[Sandworm] EDDIE! GREAT FUCKIn' POST! You are the Sargiest!
ESR: Did
you read my Email Ross
[Sandworm]
FUCKING AMAZING!
Riker1: Hi Ross.
[Sandworm]
EDDIE IS
THE BOMB!
Riker1: ESR is so money.
[Sandworm]
Riker!
ESR: naw
man, your' swinging platinum Ross.
PlayR:
Ill have to go back and read that one...
[Sandworm] I'm WEARING platinum! I'm SWINGIN' PLUTONIUM!
[Sandworm] I have been using pieces of the Dark Sun on a voice mail dating
service..justÏplaying..and the chycks are going APESHIT!
ESR: careful, if that plutonium gets close to Kryptonium, you'll fusse into a problem
[Sandworm] Oh my god! You wouldn't believe the responses! Especially on the intimate
encounters section...
[Sandworm] you all want to hear some of the patter?
PlayR:
Yup.
`Odin`: Yea.. why do you ask? ;„)
ESR says
lay it on my man
[Sandworm] First I've got a 60 second ad running...took a CD of t.v. tunes and played the

Mission Impossible theme in the backround...
[Sandworm] It says, "Good evening ladies...the man you are listening to goes by the
nameÏof Ross..while to all appearances he is just another devilishly handsome, debonair,
manÏabout town..he is in reality..the most dangerous agent of love and romance the world
hasÏever seen
[Sandworm] Your mission..should you decide to accept it..is to make connect with him
inÏbox 3588...draw close to him..learn his secrets..and discover how wonderful the two of
youÏcan be together...

[Sandworm] As always if you or any of your IMF team are caught or killed, the
secretaryÏwill disavow all knowledge of your actions....this message will self„destruct in
5 seconds!
[Sandworm] Now..that gets attention..and lots of curiosity..cuz I ain't told them
NUTHIN'Ïabout myself!
`Odin`: Except that you're different!
[Sandworm]
When they leave messages for me..they've raised their hands...thats when I
leave a response with the DS language...
ESR: DS?
[Sandworm]
I say something like, "I'm interested in living life from that special place..that
place where anything can be tried out..where anything can be tried out..where
anythingÏcanýÿÿÿ
be explored..that place where ANYTHING can be possible...
ESR: ohh
ss
`Antonio`: dark sun
[Sandworm]
It's that place right next to the essence of who you are as a woman...where you
keep your most exciting memories..where you ponder
fantasies...daydreams..amazingÏpossibilities......
glen_ster: hi bros
`Odin`: hey glen
PlayR:
Dude...
[Sandworm]
And the question I ask myself is, "What is it..about the way certain people
effect
us..that causes us to think of them in that special place....to hear this voice...and feelÏthis
presence from that spot...in such a way...that no matter how we try to deny our desireÏto
ACT...it takes on a life of it's own..compelling..powerful real..because we're
beingÏtouched in all those special places...in all those special ways we LONG to be
touched...it'sÏthe kind of c
[Sandworm] Yes..I want to step into this special place with this special person and
exploreÏANYTHING we can make real together...
[Sandworm] Pause for applause!
*** Sandworm has set the topic on channel #sargy to Getting Chycks Hot On The Phone
WithÏDark Sun!
[Sandworm]
They just go freakin' ballistic, brothers!
Riker1: clap clap clap...
PlayR:
Why is that pattern called 'Dark Sun'?
[Sandworm]
back in 2 minutes

`Antonio`: name of a book Player
PlayR:
Should I read it?
ESR: hey
maw, are you awake
Riker1: I though it was something to do with a ThermoNuclear metaphor.
`Odin`: It's about building of the atomic bomb
`Antonio`: the book is about the bomb
Riker1: mmmkay
PlayR:
Oh.. I get it..
PlayR:
mmmmkay
`Antonio`: so yes player, your success in SS depends upon reading it
ESR: and
all the emails on the list
maw: no ..I'm sleeping
[Sandworm]
Ok..back.......the book is about the building of the H„bomb!
PlayR:
In that case...
`Antonio`: and it's a RPG
[Sandworm] And about how they solved the theoretical problem of compressing
deuterium
with x„rays.....to get thermonuclear burning to take place...
[Sandworm] They were stuck for 5 years til they made the breakthrough...
[Sandworm] Which is about how long I've been working on SS..with help from the Bros
theÏlast 2„3 years, of course!
J„Altfeld asks... ***Ross***, remind me & the bros why its called Dark Sun?
Riker1: ..becuase of it's power...simliar to that of an H Bomb?
[Sandworm] Dark sun sort of compresses a woman's mind...gets it ready for BURNING!
J„Altfeld: ;)
ESR: where's the A Bomb.
[Sandworm] Once you compress the deuterium you can keep it burning..there is NO
theoretical upper limit to the yield of a thermonuclear device...b]Because what
compressionÏallows you to do is get critical mass with MUCH smaller amounts of
material...
J„Altfeld: brb
OriGami: the purer the Pu239 the less mass needed to get critical mass
ESR: Psychic Seduction
Riker1: Hopefully that does not mean seducing psycho chicks.
Riker1: :)
ESR: you
never know. I gosta becareful
[Sandworm]
The a„bomb

is the primary, ESR..it's what compresses the secondary, which is
the deuterium!
J„Altfeld: back
`Antonio`: A bomb is a necessary part of the H bomb
[Sandworm] Actually, it's no longer a function of the Pu239 as much as it is the
deuterium
which when it burns will compress lots of smaller fissionable material seeded around it...
[Sandworm] what you get is fission„fusion„fission...
maw is back, with a personalised version of Dork Sun.
[Sandworm] DORK SUN?
[Sandworm] HAHAHAHAHA!
J„Altfeld: Antonio: "A bomb is a necessary part of the H bomb"
J„Altfeld: Thats right...
*** Sandworm has set the topic on channel #sargy to Physics Corner..With Dr. Ross
Strangelove!
J„Altfeld: Without A bomb, the H bomb is just "H"
[Sandworm] So..anyway..the Dark Sun language is like the A„bomb that compresses the
deuterium...preparing it for unlimited burning!
OriGami asks what H„bomb
PlayR:
Is that the spacial anchoring part?
ESR: Got
it..
maw: I had
a
friend, and when she is with a guy that she really likes, all she wants to do is be with
them, and give, head over heels, absolutely blowing them away with her energy, to the
point that made her come to realise its a matter of going down into the unconscious,
where you get that feeling that this is what you really want. Now, me, I think, that often a
blink with the eyes can put you right into that state, didn't it.
[Sandworm] Now...the second part of the pattern is...I talk about how sometimes because
of
things
going on..stresses in our life..relationships we're in that constrict us...we shut away..lock
away parts of who we are..but they are still there in that special place..and what would it
be like for a person to just right now..feel all those parts wake up...look through our
eyes...hear with our ears..feel with our bodies and say, "Yes..I want this right now is the
time to
[Sandworm] MAW! THAT WAS TOO MONEY!
maw: Sorry for the interruption Ross, I had been toying with that for a while, I just HAD
to get it out of my system.
PlayR:
That is the compression part...
ESR: no that's the H„bomb
[Sandworm]
Hey guys..I wanna talk about Dr. Latourette's Silva Mind Control seminar I

went to..
Stygian: What was that all about?
PlayR:
Didnt know he was a dork.
[Sandworm]
A IS THE SHIT! IT WORKS!
Stygian has a face of confusion
[Sandworm] Latourette taught me something...SOMETHING IMPORTANT!
[Sandworm] Ok..Silva teaches you:
[Sandworm] 1. A systematic method to enter altered states for creative problem
solving....dream work..psychic healing..telepathy...
[Sandworm] 2. Detailed step by step instructions for all the stuff I just mentioned...
maw: ...leading to psychic seduction, I gather?
PlayR:
Is there a book you'd recommend?
[Sandworm] A bit boring at times, but workable..not very flashy..not too
sophisticated..but
it WORKS! It's sort of the reliable baseball player who ALWAYS gets a base hit and
occasionally some home runs....GOOD STUFF!
[Sandworm] Anyway...I learned an interesting thang from Dr. L.who by the way I think
is _
THE MONEY! Eddie..whattya think of Dr. L!
[Sandworm] What I learned is about USING and MOVING your physical body when
you do psychic stuff!
ESR: he was a very impressive guy.. he was very bright, and listen alot, Bronko taught
me some of the stuff he learned, and I think it's top notch
[Sandworm] In Silva, they actually have you reach out with your hands and scan the
person
you are remotely scanning and healing!
maw: can
I
reach out a scan tits this way?
[Sandworm] And when you want to read someone's thoughts...once you go into trance
and visualize them..you actually REACH OUT WITH YOUR ARMS and imagine taking
off their head and putting it on YOUR HEAD!
[Sandworm] YOU HAVE TO DO THE ACTUAL MOVEMENTS..don't just imagine it!
Actually reach out with your arms..feel the head in your hands!
maw: wow.
[Sandworm]
Yes..maw you can!
maw: I used to imagine that.. but now so much her whole head on my head, just her
mouth on my head. (ok I'll shut up now)
[Sandworm] It's akin to the Equalizer..you have to actually reach up with your hands and
push the
levers..not just imagine it...reaching up and using your hands wires it in somehow!
[Sandworm] >>>>slaps maw with a large trou!

[Sandworm] trout!
maw lols
at the idea of doing this head swapping thing in public.
maw: I don't know.. are you really supposed to do this, physically?
[Sandworm] eeerie! There's a fox in the field right outside my window..they make the
WEIRDEST half bark/half crow's caw!
ESR: get
SarGy to EAT IT!!
[Sandworm]
Maw..you can do it WITHOUT the person actually being present..jus
timagine they are there and do it!
ESR: JUST DO IT!!
ESR: read my post MAW
[Sandworm]
Now...the key is..you need to have SOME kind of body movement involved in
the operation..whatever you are doing...
[Sandworm] Like..I'm experimenting with another psychic thing...
[Sandworm] wanna hear it maw?
[Sandworm] I go into trance...then I imagine this chcyk I want to seduce..that is am
GOING to
seduce...laying in her bed with her back to me..she's laying on her side...I imagine the bed
is about 10 feet from me..actually on the other side of the wall of my living room!
OriGami: think of the rabies threat, silly
SarGy jumps out the window after the fox
maw: please continue Ross
[Sandworm]
From that distance I sort of hear the thoughts INSIDE her head!
OriGami: ping
maw: yes, please, sandworm!
[Sandworm]
(Jeez..no shit..the think is vocal tonite!) And I don't think a tiny fox could take
Sargy..he's a BIG cat..
maw: esr: which post? the one of the non„calibrating brother B?
PlayR:
How would you use this for getting laid?
J„Altfeld: back sorry I've been on the phone with a lot of people...
J„Altfeld: ;)
J„Altfeld: Awesome material up above...
J„Altfeld: gonna have to take time to review it later!
ESR: yeah. the Hulk one. read the end
ESR: what a Lammer..
maw: sand: ok... question: does it work? do you get "insights" about how she thinks this
way?
ESR: hey
I

don't remember trying what Ross said, but Sunday night I felt that I could read her
thoughts, and I instantly knew how to get her in bed.
ESR: it may be similar to what Ross is doing though
[Sandworm] Then what I do is I suddenly get a sense of very rapidly moving forward..the

picture of her gets huge like it's both being pulled into me AND I am moving toward
it..and then it's like I am IN her head...and then I hear her voice in MY head..and I begin
to have a dream FOR her..where she is watching me eat her...getting all hot...and I feel
her body in the bed..her nipples getting hard..her pussy lubricating..I feel her pussy
gripping and pulsing..bearing d
[Sandworm] Eddie..tell us about your experience!
[Sandworm] You mean the chyck with the PHD?
maw: brb
ESR: K, based on what ****** said.. He have told me that DR. L said to meditate, by
counting backwards form 3,3,3, to 2,2,2 to 1,1,1, and he says that this was done like 20
times in class..
[Sandworm]
What it has in common with the other technique is : 1. Identification with the
subject rather than "sending" a message and 2. A sense of movement..I actually move my
body forward a bit like I'm being tugged forward...
ESR: I did
this for the past several days, any time I could, and that night. somthing just clicked, like
I knew how to do it, easily..
[Sandworm] Yah..lots of going in and out of trance..it's called "fractionation"
[Sandworm] You mean with the chyck? You read her..were in her mind? At the party?
[Sandworm] You saw with different eyes? You saw INTO her..not just her surface..and
THAT act alone was what she sense is MY guess and she DUG it..it surprised her..hit her
where she lives as a WOMAN!
[Sandworm] You were a MAN who could touch her..not a boy who was trying!
ESR: Yeah!! But I read her once at the begining, and I had a flash of what I needed to do,
not like pictures, or anything. I just got a feeling that If I go for it, It will come out
exactly the way I want it to.
[Sandworm] EDDIE IS THE MONEY! HE IS SWINGIN a HUGE NLPENIS!
[Sandworm] I gotta go in 5 mnintues! Gotta do a phone consult with a Bro who just
bought a home study course!
ESR: I am just a humble man ross, thanks.. I be just learning, and getting out there and
doing it.
Saint11: Damn! Just got here.
PlayR:
That's kewl...
maw: ok.
now someone please point out to me the major difference between what you describe
here and the stepping„in type of 'standard' calibration?
[Sandworm]
Calibration can mean a LOT of things..it means to compare against..to get a
baseline with which to measure...

[Sandworm] You can calibrate distances...
[Sandworm] This is more IDENTIFICATION!
[Sandworm] Here's another way to view it...
[Sandworm] Are you ready?
[Sandworm] God..I really AM a great teacher...
maw: well, ok, stepping in means for me to view the world from her view, with her
feelings.
maw: I'm
ready
[Sandworm] It is the difference between assessing and ACCESSING! One implies a
disassociation..the other an IDENTIFICATION!
J„Altfeld: Humble too ;)
J„Altfeld: LOL RJ
J„Altfeld: GREAT ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!
maw: ok.
so what you do with the silva thing is dissocation?
maw: or the other way round?
[Sandworm]
Nope...other way round!
maw: now
thats strange. because for me the stepping in would be pointless if it wasn't to take on
their identity to access whats going on.
[Sandworm]
Maw...what you do is DIRECT once you've identified....
[Sandworm]
Go rent a movie "The Eyes of Laura Mars".
maw: yeah, but for me calibration goes first, then comes leading. since I might have to go
through "intermediate" states first.
[Sandworm]
Modeling does NOT require Deep Trance Identification...
[Sandworm] But whatever works for ya, Maw!
maw: I saw
the movie. some times ago.. scary, but good. faye, wasn't it.
[Sandworm]
That's
what counts!
J„Altfeld: THANK YOU ROSS guys listen up „„ modeling DOES NOT REQUIRE deep
trance identification.
maw: thats right, and I never thought of it as being deep trance identificaion.
J„Altfeld: modeling can be done consciuously!!!
[Sandworm]
Correct, JA!
ESR: I think what Ross is saying is that when you get into a state, and allow yourself to
see
though

her eyes, you are calibrating from the inside, not the outside, and that's what we both did..

maw: well I am sure since I don't think that I do much unconsciously anyway :„)
[Sandworm]
Well put
Eddie!
J„Altfeld: Maw „„ MOST of what you do you do unconsciously, sorry, my friend...
maw: ESR: I'm sorry, but for me this IS the same thing.
[Sandworm]
Oh..has everyone met my new pussy? Tabbatha Kitty? Sargy's sister? Will
you all take a sec and say hello!
J„Altfeld: its just that its mostly automatic behavior!
J„Altfeld: You may consciously decide to brush your teeth but the motions you go
through are programmed in.
Riker1: This is similar to "saying" stuff "at" her vs. experiencing states "with" her, you
both become part of the process.
maw: jon: you didn't pick up on that, did ya :) "I don't think I do much unconsciously bla
bla: :„)
ESR: why
would you need to Calibrate anything, if you can get inside of it, and see how it works
form the inside.. That's what Mozart, Di Vinci, and Tesla did
J„Altfeld: sorry „„„
you're RIGHT you don't know consciously what you do unconsciously
J„Altfeld: perils of reading email...
studgirl: good point
J„Altfeld: or chats...
J„Altfeld: you can't get the inflection intended...
maw: anyways. what I do and use appears to me as if I aquired it wqith quite some
conscious effort. I might get better at it, and naturally that makes it become more
unconsicous. does that make sense?
[Sandworm]
Actually, if you want to know more about Mozart's creative strategy..Robert
Dilts wrote a book about him and Disney and Einstein and Sherlock Holmes! Called
Strategy of Genius..a bit stuff but BRILLIANT!
*ESR* no
that was the other girl, that ****** was reading the seminar notes to. she was freaky, and
I was ready to throw her out the window.. Pam is cool..
maw: my impression is that we all seem to do the same thing, but differ in our
interpretation of the word "calibration". which is ok, right
ESR: I know it's brilliant, I bought the book, and it kicks _
Sandworm _
] I think Robert Dilts would be APPALLED by SS!
[Sandworm] I admire his intelligence but I think he'd HATE ME!